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Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby SonicBlueRanger » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:55 am

Not sure how to feel about this.

At least they got the Producers of the Recent Planet of the Apes movies working on this.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mordum » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:13 pm

Them using X as a source picture despite this being a Classic era movie is clearly yet another strike toward the ever suffering Megaman fanbase.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Damo » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:08 pm

I have no faith in Hollywood adaptations in general, and Hollywood has never produced a good adaptation of a video game.

I have to wonder if talks regarding a possible movie influenced the "hiatus".
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mordum » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:15 pm

The Super Mario Bros. movie was awesome.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mavrickindigo » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:36 pm

We should be happy that the writer is comparing it more to Resident Evil than Mario Bros? At least that movie actually starred the Mario Bros.

All in all, I don't care at this point what sort of changes or whatever they would do to Mega Man. Its obvious Capcom doesn't care to do anything new with the tried and true method, and I was willing to give Maverick Hunter X a shot, even though it was an AU thing.

And with the comic gone, its good to look forward to SOMETHING
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby MetalSkulkBane » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:21 pm

I'm mixed about this too.
One one hand I have zero reasons to believe that this will be good. Also, I'm so scared of this wave upcoming wave of video game movies. I guess that Hollywood thought that if comics were great hit then games will be too. The problem is that most games will badly translate to being a movie (like Silent Hill, Half Live) or are already based on movies (Uncharted series is pretty much Indiana Jones games without Indiana Jones) and some are ideas are just stupid (Angry Birds, Minecraft).

On the other hand I am optimistic about Sonic's movie (for some unexplained reasons) so I should probably do the same for Megaman.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mobotropolis » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:17 pm

" We are going to make some creative changes to better connect with a general audience.

Mega Man is now a child cyborg who was run over by Dr. Wily and saved by Dr. Light who is his paternal figure for some reason despite having had a family before the accident. Also under Light's care is Roll; the adorable orphan you-gotta-feel-sorry-for-her terminally ill sick girl who was saved by becoming a robot. Together with Blues; a street smart kid who was given a second chance at life they protect their world from the evil Wily Corporation.

Also Blues is a girl and Mega Man's love interest. "

... yeah. Something along those lines is what I'm imaging here.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:53 pm

Well, it's nice to know something's on the horizon. But it's too soon for me to feel anything about it.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mordum » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:04 am

Honestly, franchise movies are so milquetoast and boring now I actually would prefer something incredibly off-kilter just because it'd be more interesting to watch.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Penguin God » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:29 am

Yea, the only way I'd really be interested in this is if it DID go full Super Mario Bros. I'd rather it be an interesting entertaining trainwreck than a safe bland success.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby BlazeHeatnix » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:30 am

Penguin God wrote:Yea, the only way I'd really be interested in this is if it DID go full Super Mario Bros. I'd rather it be an interesting entertaining trainwreck than a safe bland success.


"I'd rather it be a horrible movie than a good one." That's literally what you're saying. Why am I the only sane one here?

Personally I think of all video game adaptations, Mega Man is one of the LEAST likely candidates to make a movie out of. Even Mario could have a good movie if some actual thought and care was put into it, because Mario is still a linear narrative. Mega Man...isn't. There's a general plot that robots are attacking and you can go tackle these robots, one at a time, in any order. Then you fight through a castle and face Wily at the end. A fan took a crack at it and it failed hard.

Plus we still live in an age where video game movies are treated the same way porn and horror movies are. The Hitman movie that recently came out was a particularly disgusting case.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby MetalSkulkBane » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:45 am

I don't think adapting Megaman is all that hard, you just need to get rid of 8 Robot Masters rule. Sonic also would be horrible if we just walked through zones fighting Eggman ten times and nothing else (basically, the "Genesis" story arc). All it takes is to focus on parts that aren't gameplay.

BlazeHeatnix wrote:Plus we still live in an age where video game movies are treated the same way porn and horror movies are. The Hitman movie that recently came out was a particularly disgusting case.

From all video games movies I saw, I only liked "Prince of Persia" and it might have something to do with a fact that I never played the game.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby BlazeHeatnix » Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:26 am

See, no, but that's the thing. Sonic is still a linear narrative. He goes from point A to point B, A being the start of Green Hill and B being the final boss. There's a story there. You could EASILY turn Sonic 3 for example into a movie.

Mega Man? He teleports to fight an RM, teleports back to Dr. Light, rinse repeat. And then he goes by himself into Wily's castle. Unless you TOTALLY revamped the way the story is set up, there'd be no logical explanation for why he'd fight one RM at a time, or better yet why there'd be any sort of downtime between nonstop action when there's RM's everywhere attacking the city. And don't give me that "It's Mega Man, it doesn't have to be logical" bull. I mean it wouldn't be logical from a story progression and pacing standpoint for a 2 hour movie, because it's so strictly episodic unlike most video games. That's why it works as a TV show and a comic.

Now, X? That's a totally different story. Half the movie could just be a Day of Sigma adaptation. And since X isn't alone in his fight, he wouldn't have to face all 8 Mavericks. Just leave the rest up to Zero or whatever before you have to go face Sigma. But with the Classic series...I just don't see it working without a complete and total revamp of the story, which would only cause more harm than good in the long run.

I'm starting to wonder if this and the TV show are being made to compete with Mighty No. 9, since it's doing the exact same thing.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby Mordum » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:11 am

BlazeHeatnix wrote:
"I'd rather it be a horrible movie than a good one." That's literally what you're saying. Why am I the only sane one here?


Because you're defining sanity, apparently (and correct me if I'm wrong), by excessively literal and linear thinking.

Speaking as someone who shares Penguin God's opinion, though I dunno how identical his will be to mine here, I've really grown to hate rubrics for things. You know what the worst thing about Fantastic Four is? The fact that nobody actually let Josh Trank, regardless of his personal failings, make a Cronenberg movie. Every other recent comic book movie is such a milquetoast, basic, by the books representation of what we've already known that seeing Fantastic Four being taken from a goofy Silver Age family story into a Cronenbergian body horror was insanely refreshing. An actual opinion and take on the material. I may be more Videodrome than The Fly in terms of my Cronenberg tastes, but I was super down to actually seeing Fantastic Four until I heard Fox gutted it to oblivion in an attempt to make it less like itself. Because that's what happens when someone has his own point of view on a property, now.

It's funny. There was a point where a "bad" movie was something to celebrate. Mystery Science Theatre used to elevate characters like Rowsdower or Torgo into iconic affection. That show had you come out APPRECIATING the sheer insanity that comes with someone trying their hardest to do a great job and failing completely, but still remaining earnest the way through. Super Mario Bros. is absolutely an MST movie in its purest form despite never being on that show: so full of bizarre creative decisions (Daisy as the princess and Luigi given the love interest, grimey and dirty Bowser driven dystopia, and even committing to Mario as a last name despite the more realistic context of the story) that you can actually talk about it more than if we'd gotten a perfectly fine adaptation of Mario. I wouldn't want someone to go back and unmake that movie in favor of a "better" movie because Super Mario Bros. gives me something so many adaptations can't claim to give me: a specific interpretation. It doesn't replace the source material, after all.

I think Dragonball Evolution had the right idea, at its heart. If Dragonball Z was about slaving Goku to the general plot of Superman II, right down to the death of his home planet and being hounded by a horde of Kryptonian (uh, I mean Saiyan) criminals, Evolution actually had a cool idea in replacing the Superman/Moses schtick with Peter Parker/Spider-Man, but doing it in a pre-Z storyline as a basis to interpret everything else going forward with a bit of hindsight. I'm STILL disappointed we didn't get like five really cheap direct to TV sequels to that movie, because the idea of reconfiguring the barebones Saiyan mythology to Spider-Man's general arc instead of some sloppy wuxia interpretation of the Old Testament promised a lot of new, exciting versions of familiar faces presented in ways I would've never thought of them before. I still think there's a deceptively brilliant and fascinating take on Master Roshi in that movie that is way more interesting to me than actual Master Roshi. But Evolution's really truly great core idea is owning up to one's source material being as shallow and derivative as it is and playing mix and match with HOW it's derivative to new results.

And Megaman's the same since it's just Astro Boy, as others on this forum have noted. So on one level, I say just own up to it. Replace the Astro Boy notion with some OTHER animu robot (Kikaider, maybe? Though that might lead to something TOO much like X. Maybe Cyborg 009 Rock and the Robot Masters) and play it out. Or don't go the Evolution method and just get someone with no familiarity with Megaman whatsoever and let him or her play the games and interpret the largely context-less characters however (s)he wants. Or just go full grimdark with the premise. Or play it up as kiddy as possible for extra laughs. I'd actually really like to see Mobotropolis's joke movie, because Megaman as a naive, simple nice guy and Blues as a street hardened, cynical woman is one of my favorite romantic dynamics and I'd be interested in seeing, depending on demographic (I'm assuming PG-13?), how it did or didn't explore romance in the context of two beings still learning how to be free minded. I'd WRITE that movie, even. That really interests me.

Megaman is shlock. Shlock isn't bad, but it is shlock. Partially because it never needed to be anything more than shlock: Megaman's importance as a narrative is pretty arbitrary and more a response to the brand trying to grow up with its audience than anything else. But I don't think the original Megaman games were ever built to reconcile the fact that Megaman as this heartfelt, torn pacifist is completely stupid because Jump n' Shoot Man is way more fun to be than Jump n' Pray Man. If I want that notion of Megaman as a torn pacifist...I have the Archie comic. It's there. It's never going away. I've heard the different manga are great. So what exactly are you or other fans being robbed of when a movie decides not to be this great exploration of the platonic, ideal notion of what Megaman is supposed to be? There's really nothing, whatsoever, to lose at all except suddenly you can't like EVERY version of a thing. Which...whatever.

Nobody cares about Shakespeare's source materials because they like his work, almost entirely composed of adaptations, save for literary scholars who LOVE assessing differences between iterations. I've known people who love Beast Wars who don't care about G1 Transformers. I'm sure plenty of people, by now, consider Bryan Fuller to have written the definitive version of the Hannibal Lecter story, and before him I'm sure people regarded Manhunter as "their" version of the Red Dragon story with no real interest or regard for Thomas Harris. To a lot of people, the Marvel Cinematic Universe IS the Marvel Universe, hands down, and there's no other version that really matters to them. And I remember seeing Yu-Gi-Oh! GX announced only for the fanbase to declare it a tactless raping of Kazuki Takahashi's artistic vision only for, ten years later, to young fans to correct me on its purpose because GX was OBVIOUSLY always intended to be part of the story (but not everything after it, mind you). Stuff inevitably replaces stuff to fans, and how much any particular source or version matters is a purely personal thing, nothing official or even objectively necessary.

Adaptations being "faithful" is boring and, frankly, arbitrary. The validity of a source material, and just what about it is and isn't sacred, is pretty circumstantial. And usually not particularly objective, and boiling down to "I like it, therefore it's not something anyone else should mess with in any way." But what, exactly, does that line have to be? Why does a good game with a really crappy story, as executed, require being translated into a good version of that story instead of just interpreting things its own way since the gameplay didn't really care about that story either? Why does Megaman HAVE to be translated or adapted "well" or "accurately" when itself is an Astro Boy rip off?

Like, for real. What's so bad about Super Mario Brothers as a movie when its source material, as great a game as it is, is just...Alice in Wonderland. It's just another take on Alice in Wonderland, but replacing Alice Liddell with a character more fit to what adventure means to boys instead of girls (slaying dragons). How is Hitman "disgusting" when it's ALWAYS been the generic, bargain bin version of the films that likely inspired it in the first place? Divorce most iconic games from their ACTUAL appeal (the gameplay) and leave them with what a movie's actually supposed to adapt (the story), and most of them are insanely generic or homages to things in films that inspired them. They're often inherently derivative even moreso than other products in different mediums by virtue of games being so young.

The fact that you say Megaman is bad source material BECAUSE it's so open ended and vague speaks volumes. That makes it, at least to me, far more ideal to turn into a movie because there's more room for the directors, screenwriters, and producers to actually make something out of the material. Whether or not the movie's genuinely good or memorably bad, I'd rather it take advantage of being its own thing. I want it to be something I can actually remember or talk about or enjoy seeing for merits other than "That sure was another approximation of Megaman's one or two paragraph story in a video game manual, boy howdy." I hope the filmmakers do whatever they want, and are actually allowed to explore whatever about the games fires their imagination. And if that results in something memorably bad and shlocky like the Super Mario Bros movie, then sure: earnest creativity is a value that transcends rubric-driven quality.
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Re: Mega Man Movie coming from Fox

Postby BlazeHeatnix » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:16 am

Wanting a bad movie over a good one is literally inarguable. End of story. Sorry, but I'm not reading another one of your thesis-length posts, because that's as ridiculous as saying Hitler did nothing wrong.

Save for one line. Bad movies are never celebrated, ever. They're mocked and the people who made it are rightfully embarrassed. If the guys behind MST3000 had a choice between making all movies masterpieces forever or keeping things the way they are, they'd choose the former. Anybody would. If every movie were a 5/5, nobody would complain. Wanting a bad movie means you want the people behind said movie to feel ashamed and hurt their chances of working on actual good movies. And the fans looking forward to seeing whatever's adapted on the big screen are disappointed. All for your entertainment. Great job.

IF they are celebrated, it's because it was the director's intent. You know why The Room is celebrated? Because Tommy Wiseau is openly aware of how bad the movie is, because he made it that way. He rarely admits it to keep the illusion up, but he did. At no point does he ever seriously think people see his movie as good. People who have no respect for the source material for what it is should stay far away from making an adaptation. JJ Abrams openly admitted he hates Star Trek. That's why the reboot movies suck so hard. So wanting to write an adaptation as completely different because you think the core story is terrible? That's insane and goes against all logic. If you don't want to make something good out of what's there, then do something else. Don't be a money-grubbing Capitalist whore and latch onto an existing franchise just to rake in cash from the masses.
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