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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City

Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:20 am

SurrealBrain wrote:There may still be individual ideas that may be similar, even if the stories themselves are different. If there are similar ideas running about, it might cause a mess. We don't want that, do we?


This, basically.

I still want to see what both of you guys have in store for the future. I'm happy to read a good Mario comic, even if these two are different.


Well, it's not like being different means they can't both be good. ;)

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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City

Postby Chauvel » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:19 pm

I have to admit I'm not a huge Super Mario fan. Don't get me wrong here, I love games but I was never really interested in much else. But I must say, I enjoyed read the fan comics! Both Nytetrayn and Danny8bit Mario fan comics are awesome! But since this is Nytetrayn thread here, I'll be talking about Neo Bowser City, of course.

The story reads like an all ages kid's adventure comic, which is meant as a compliment. The story has an interesting setup which I'm quite eager to see the mystery unfolds as it goes along. Although, I did feel that things jumped around rather quickly between pages. I felt that certain scenes didn't have a chance to settle in, so to speak.

And if you're interested in the creative side of things, you can check out my scripts (for what's been published thus far) here. This is a learning experience for me, and I figured sharing these might help allow others to hone their craft as well, if they like.


Oooh! I love reading comic scripts! Do you mind if I use some of this to practice comic sequential art?
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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City

Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:45 pm

Scarz wrote:I have to admit I'm not a huge Super Mario fan. Don't get me wrong here, I love games but I was never really interested in much else. But I must say, I enjoyed read the fan comics! Both Nytetrayn and Danny8bit Mario fan comics are awesome! But since this is Nytetrayn thread here, I'll be talking about Neo Bowser City, of course.

The story reads like an all ages kid's adventure comic, which is meant as a compliment. The story has an interesting setup which I'm quite eager to see the mystery unfolds as it goes along. Although, I did feel that things jumped around rather quickly between pages. I felt that certain scenes didn't have a chance to settle in, so to speak.


Thanks, and glad you're enjoying it! All-ages adventure is definitely what I'm going for.

I can definitely appreciate where you're coming from with the way things jumped around; that's what comes with having to deal with a page count for print, plus what the artist is willing to do. The first issue had seven, then it was looking like five from then on, which I readily took as a challenge, much as keeping to seven or a few more per chapter would have been nice.

My original draft for the second part was actually halved (more or less) from the original script I'd written; it became a matter of finding a back-up point to cut off at, and trying to make sure everything else fit accordingly.

Hopefully, since we're doing it online now, there might be more room to stretch out and maybe do more-- we'll have to wait and see!

And if you're interested in the creative side of things, you can check out my scripts (for what's been published thus far) here. This is a learning experience for me, and I figured sharing these might help allow others to hone their craft as well, if they like.


Oooh! I love reading comic scripts! Do you mind if I use some of this to practice comic sequential art?


Absolutely! That's what they're there for. =)

Just one condition: I want to see what you come up with. ;)

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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City

Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:53 am

Okay, so it's been a while since I've touched this. The reason being that Mark has found himself too busy to continue with the comic, and I myself have been a bit too busy scrambling for work and doing other things to assemble a properly-worded post about what I'm hoping to do. At least one of those things has now changed for the moment (the latter one).

Basically, I'm looking for a person or persons to help take over the art chores on the comic; in the case of persons, things would be divided up by chapter, unless we find people wanting to contribute in different ways, i.e. lines, inks, colors... all the fun comic stuff.

To be up front about this: The comic is not paid in any way; there is absolutely no money changing hands with this comic, save for my paying for a domain name, SMBNBC.com, out of my own pocket. It's Nintendo's toy box, and the last thing I or anyone else wants to incur is their wrath for making a profit off of their properties.

The main reason I'm doing this is for experience, learning to script for comics. This gives me practice at doing that and something I can show off if I ever try for any sort of work doing the real thing, with the only bonus for me personally being that I get to play a part in bringing to life a story I've had in my head for quite some time now.

As such, I'm looking for people who wish to benefit similarly, by being able to practice and hone their craft, perhaps even have something to show prospective employers as well.

And as much as I kind of loathe the whole "for exposure" thing, I can at least reassure you that I'm not drawing a dime from this, but also that we do have the support of the magazine the comic launched in, Nintendo Force. Heck, the magazine still runs comics (just not longer-running serials like this), and you might even be able to get a gig there that does actually pay. No promises there, but this could prove a good start.

About the comic itself: This is not a particularly long-term gig. The story is basically a self-contained mini-series, and while I do have ideas for a potential follow-up/sequel/or whatever, depending on where the winds of fate lead, Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City was only meant to run for about two years (NF is a bi-monthly magazine, keep in mind); roughly 12 to 14 chapters, depending on where things fall.

Things such as page count. The first chapter ran about seven pages to kick things off, and the second chapter was five, which is what it was looking at remaining for the duration. Ideally, I would like to get it back up to the 7-8 page per chapter range, to allow a little more breathing room (the second chapter had to be cut short from the original plan). As you might be aware, this is still significantly shorter than the 21 or so pages that Archie's Sonic and Mega Man titles run with, among other titles in the industry.

Being a Mario comic, I want to keep the characters with a more cartoony style. Some of the realistic depictions of Mario do rock, but in addition to a sense of consistency, the more cartoon-like style helps add a certain gravity to the story which might be lost otherwise as the world around Mario, Luigi, and Toad have changed.

Basically, I'd like it to be as close to the "classic" Mario style as possible, as seen here:

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Alternatively, the style seen in the Mario & Luigi games is pretty good and close as well, even if slightly different, and Super Mario Adventures style is great as well.

As for backgrounds, there's more room to experiment.

If you're interested in participating, drop me a line at david.oxford (at) nyteworks.net and we can discuss it further. If you're interested in seeing what's been done or checking out a script page to try your hand with it, you can find all of that at SMBNBC.com. The first chapter follows a more common style, or at least what Ian uses, while the second wound up going for something closer to a more classic Marvel-style. I can work with either as needed, though I'm hoping to do more in the former style (including Chapter 2's to match), since as far as I know, that seems to be closer to the industry standard now.

Thanks, and I hope some of you will be interested!

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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City-Now Hiring

Postby Chauvel » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:43 pm

This is something I would certainly love to contribute to! My Oct - Nov schedule is a little full with freelance work at the moment. I'll keep this in mind and send you an email (or reply, or PM) either late November or December (if my schedule is more open) to see if you still need an artist by then.
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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City-Now Hiring

Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:11 pm

Cool, sounds good! I look forward to hearing back from you. =)

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Re: Super Mario Bros. in Neo Bowser City-Help Wanted

Postby LBD_Nytetrayn » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:53 pm

At last long last, we're almost ready to get this thing rolling again!

We're still finalizing things a bit, but given the circumstances, consider this your official BumbleKing sneak preview!

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For this issue's pencils and inks, we have Chauvel to thank, while colors came from Chu. Nicklas Nall will be helping us out with the lettering as well as inks going forward.

It's taken a while to get here, but I hope you'll find the effort well worth the wait. =)

Oh, and since I'm flying home from Germany today (I had to post this by phone), I might not get to respond to anything here, sadly. All the same, the link to the comic's page is in my signature, and ways to find me are listed here.

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