The Sonic 25th Anniversary Thread - It's a TRIPLE THREAT?

[Betz!]

Well, its officially 2016 and the 25th anniversary of Sonic the Hedgehog. Wow. 25. Just. Geez. Anyways, we've already got a logo (I'll put the pic up later. Chromebook issues.), a clue in the pumpkin from the halloween art for Sonic Channel...?, and a possible second game. So happy birthday Sonic, and I hope that this year turns out well.

Would you guys be ok with a classic styled game and gameplay? I personally want something with modern Sonic and how he handled in Generations. Thoughts?

[LordLaharlsVassal]

To be honest, I am rather tired by Sega's attempt at creating the magic that is the classic games, they just try to recreate the old levels look and feel and miss what made those games good to begin with (they were new back then). I wish they knew how to make a new and interesting Sonic game without recreating Green Hill zone for the millionth time.

[akessel92]

To be honest, I am rather tired by Sega's attempt at creating the magic that is the classic games, they just try to recreate the old levels look and feel and miss what made those games good to begin with (they were new back then). I wish they knew how to make a new and interesting Sonic game without recreating Green Hill zone for the millionth time.

Exactly! If they are gonna go like the 2-D sections as generations again at the very least do something different. Like I don't know let's say.... Have being able to play around with other characters like tails, knuckles, Amy, and heck even shadow if possible. And also have newer levels that no one has seen before.

[RaceProUK]

How different do you mean by 'different'? Because the last time Sega tried something truly different, we got the Werehog.

[FancyFool]

How different do you mean by 'different'? Because the last time Sega tried something truly different, we got the Werehog.

Which was an interesting and potentially awesome idea that was simply tainted by poor choice of gameplay. Honestly, why do people keep using the Werehog as an example of a "bad idea" in Sonic when there are far better examples of such ideas in Shadow the Hedgehog (the game, not the character) and Sonic 06. Compared to the awful ideas present in both those games, the Werehog is the least offensive and, dare I say, a legitimately good idea that could've been handled better.

With that said, I really hope this game doesn't turn into yet another nostalgia-trip. It's good to remember and take queues from the past but not if it overtakes the things that have been introduced after the beloved past (namely the characters that have been introduced after the Classic games) and prevents new ideas being used in favor of ones already used.

[RaceProUK]

How different do you mean by 'different'? Because the last time Sega tried something truly different, we got the Werehog.

Which was an interesting and potentially awesome idea that was simply tainted by poor choice of gameplay. Honestly, why do people keep using the Werehog as an example of a "bad idea" in Sonic when there are far better examples of such ideas in Shadow the Hedgehog (the game, not the character) and Sonic 06.

Because it's the most recent experiment that didn't work, which is why I used it an an example in this particular context. So, did you simply ignore context, or are you just bitter someone dared criticise the Werehog?

[Duck Army]

How different do you mean by 'different'? Because the last time Sega tried something truly different, we got the Werehog.

Which was an interesting and potentially awesome idea that was simply tainted by poor choice of gameplay. Honestly, why do people keep using the Werehog as an example of a "bad idea" in Sonic when there are far better examples of such ideas in Shadow the Hedgehog (the game, not the character) and Sonic 06. Compared to the awful ideas present in both those games, the Werehog is the least offensive and, dare I say, a legitimately good idea that could've been handled better.

With that said, I really hope this game doesn't turn into yet another nostalgia-trip. It's good to remember and take queues from the past but not if it overtakes the things that have been introduced after the beloved past (namely the characters that have been introduced after the Classic games) and prevents new ideas being used in favor of ones already used.

Yeah, I say the Were-Hog could have been interesting if it actually behaved differently and made Sonic have to control it, but it behaves the SAME, making it have no purpose at all.

[Xabin]

What about Sonic Lost World? That was the epitome of "let's try something different", and it flopped horribly.

[RaceProUK]

What about Sonic Lost World? That was the epitome of "let's try something different", and it flopped horribly.

I don't think copying Super Mario Galaxy really counts.

[ToaArcan]

Lost World had "Scrapped Mario/Sonic crossover" written all over it.

I also want to see something new that isn't "Wasn't Sonic 1 amazing!?" the umpteenth time (Sonic 3 was better). We've revisited GHZ so many times that it's lost its appeal. I'm tired of "Just Sonic" gameplay. I'm tired of weak plots and lame jokes. I'm tired of trying to pretend that Eggman's a threat. I'm tired of everyone bar Sonic being just there to please fanboys.

[FancyFool]

How different do you mean by 'different'? Because the last time Sega tried something truly different, we got the Werehog.

Which was an interesting and potentially awesome idea that was simply tainted by poor choice of gameplay. Honestly, why do people keep using the Werehog as an example of a "bad idea" in Sonic when there are far better examples of such ideas in Shadow the Hedgehog (the game, not the character) and Sonic 06.

Because it's the most recent experiment that didn't work, which is why I used it an an example in this particular context. So, did you simply ignore context, or are you just bitter someone dared criticise the Werehog?

Admittedly the latter. I somewhat suspected you named the Werehog because it was the most recent experiment that (sadly) didn't work out. But still, why name an idea that, ultimately, did little harm to this franchise just because it's the most recent when there are ideas that did incredible harm to this franchise and just happen to be a bit older? You could've named the guns, vehicles, or the swearing from Shadow or the hyper realism or overly complex plot of 06 as examples in place of the Werehog and it'd make more sense since those ideas did FAR more damage to this franchise than the Werehog ever did and could.

[Xabin]

Well, according to a recent poll on TSSZ, almost 50% of the fandom that they polled wants a game remaking the Sonic Adventure style of play, so hopefully Sega will keep that in mind when they deal with the new games. Likely not, but it's good to dream, right?

[Penguin God]

I don't think Sega pays much attention to TSSZ polls. It has been a while since Sonic Team made a full title, which really, makes me hope for the one thing Sonic's always needed: a long development period. I just want a good game, and for that you need the time to make said game. Whether it uses Sonic or Classic!Sonic, whether it has surreal landscapes or realistic ones, as long as Sonic plays right (which hopefully they don't make an Adventure style game because that would totally invalidate the long development period) I'll have fun with it.

I don't mind Green Hill being referenced a lot, the same thing happens for 1-1 of Mario, it's a big milestone. Every franchise ever references their roots: heck, outside of Generations, Sonic has wandered farther away in experiments and additions than any other big mascot franchise I know.

[lalalei2001]

How about Rayman? EVERY game in that series was radically different!

[RaceProUK]

But still, why name an idea that, ultimately, did little harm to this franchise just because it's the most recent when there are ideas that did incredible harm to this franchise and just happen to be a bit older?

I'm sorry; next time I want to mention something that's the most recent, I'll deliberately choose something that's not the most recent just so you don't get upset.

Well, according to a recent poll on TSSZ

Hardly a representative sample of the fanbase, given half the people in the comment sections are idiots who will spew bile and hatred without prompting.