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Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Azul » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:22 am

According to a survey, even though Sonic is primarily targeted at boys, he is almost twice as popular with women than he is with men. Interestingly enough, the survey was only given to people 18 and over. The author speculates that the results may have been different if given to people 16 and under, the target demographic.

The results remind me of how even though My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is targeted towards young girls, something about it has garnered the attention of numerous young and middle aged men. Except this isn't as laughable. Thoughts?
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby akessel92 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:05 am

I bet a huge number of them are shadow fan girls.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby SonicBlueRanger » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:42 am

Azul wrote:The results remind me of how even though My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is targeted towards young girls, something about it has garnered the attention of numerous young and middle aged men. Except this isn't as laughable.


Rude.

Anyway this is kind of interesting. I'm not too surprised I've met a lot more female Sonic Fans online than male.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Kellox » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:55 am

That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby GameBuddy » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:58 am

Azul wrote:Sonic… isn't as laughable.

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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Azul » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:08 am

SonicBlueRanger wrote:
Azul wrote:The results remind me of how even though My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is targeted towards young girls, something about it has garnered the attention of numerous young and middle aged men. Except this isn't as laughable.


Rude.

Anyway this is kind of interesting. I'm not too surprised I've met a lot more female Sonic Fans online than male.


Sincerely sorry if my sense of humor is a bit too dry.

In my sector of the world, the boys usually lean towards the more macho, muscle clad, gritty, testosterone poisoning figures and Sonic doesn't exactly fill that suit well, thank heavens.

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Azul wrote:Sonic… isn't as laughable.

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Removing all context of the actual quote and missing the point of that statement entirely. Please, if you're not going to add to the conversation and encourage derailment, I'd rather you don't post at all. Trying to carry out a quality conversation here.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Azul » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:23 am

Kellox wrote:That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)


Well, according to the article, girls are a secondary target so its not as if they don't have them entirely out of mind. Cute animal critters have a mutual appeal to boys and girls alike. And I never took modern Sonic as discriminating against a female audience.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Kellox » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:46 am

Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)


Well, according to the article, girls are a secondary target so its not as if they don't have them entirely out of mind. Cute animal critters have a mutual appeal to boys and girls alike. And I never took modern Sonic as discriminating against a female audience.



I...never said you did?

Whenever I looked up Sonic Team's target audience I always read they stated 8 year old boys. Which I always found odd cause Sonic always screamed all-ages to me and most of its active fandom are older people.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Azul » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:03 pm

Kellox wrote:
Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)


Well, according to the article, girls are a secondary target so its not as if they don't have them entirely out of mind. Cute animal critters have a mutual appeal to boys and girls alike. And I never took modern Sonic as discriminating against a female audience.



I...never said you did?

Whenever I looked up Sonic Team's target audience I always read they stated 8 year old boys. Which I always found odd cause Sonic always screamed all-ages to me and most of its active fandom are older people.

No, I'm not saying you did. I thought your comment implied that SEGA and Sonic Team didn't focus on girls altogether, which was only true during the classic era. Sorry for the confusion.

And yeah, I think Sonic looks more all ages than kids only too.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby MetalSkulkBane » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:28 pm

I wouldn't 100% trust those numbers. After all, it was made only in UK, who know how it looks in USA or other parts of the world.

Then again, I'm not saying it's impossible. After all, I have no clue which gender is any of you.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Kellox » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:49 pm

Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:
Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)


Well, according to the article, girls are a secondary target so its not as if they don't have them entirely out of mind. Cute animal critters have a mutual appeal to boys and girls alike. And I never took modern Sonic as discriminating against a female audience.



I...never said you did?

Whenever I looked up Sonic Team's target audience I always read they stated 8 year old boys. Which I always found odd cause Sonic always screamed all-ages to me and most of its active fandom are older people.

No, I'm not saying you did. I thought your comment implied that SEGA and Sonic Team didn't focus on girls altogether, which was only true during the classic era. Sorry for the confusion.

And yeah, I think Sonic looks more all ages than kids only too.


Ah I understand and I agree the classic is debatable but I always thought Sonic was for an all-ages all-gender timeless franchise. So I am wondering why 8 year old boys is still their target.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby MetalSkulkBane » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:15 pm

Kellox wrote:
Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:
Azul wrote:
Kellox wrote:That doesn't surprise me too much the older female fanbase is very active online and these are the same girls who grew up playing the Sonic games or watching Sonic X, I wonder if this would change or influence Sonic Team's strategy of only focusing on 8 year old boys as their audience ( and maybe broadening it)


Well, according to the article, girls are a secondary target so its not as if they don't have them entirely out of mind. Cute animal critters have a mutual appeal to boys and girls alike. And I never took modern Sonic as discriminating against a female audience.



I...never said you did?

Whenever I looked up Sonic Team's target audience I always read they stated 8 year old boys. Which I always found odd cause Sonic always screamed all-ages to me and most of its active fandom are older people.

No, I'm not saying you did. I thought your comment implied that SEGA and Sonic Team didn't focus on girls altogether, which was only true during the classic era. Sorry for the confusion.

And yeah, I think Sonic looks more all ages than kids only too.


Ah I understand and I agree the classic is debatable but I always thought Sonic was for an all-ages all-gender timeless franchise. So I am wondering why 8 year old boys is still their target.


They made 06 super serious and everyone hated it. Now they play it safe with Pontac writing, because no one will critic story about blue talking hedgehog to be to silly.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Mr.Unsmiley » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:19 pm

akessel92 wrote:I bet a huge number of them are shadow fan girls.


I was going to half-jokingly say "that's me" and then I remembered my own screen name and, well, I guess the joke is on me :^)
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby apprentice manta » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:54 pm

*Awkward intro*
How do I say this? I think the topic title is kinda rude/dismissive, labeling all female fans of Sonic as chicks who dig hedgehogs. The lead off comment didn't make me think serious discussion, by snidely comparing periphery demographic of Sonic to periphery demo of MLP.

That it was immediately followed by someone betting on how "they're mostly Shadow fangirls" generalization didn't help. It's quite possible to like a series aimed at a different group. It's also possible to like one chara more (or less) than others. Being passionate about a chara is not necessarily bad, but sometimes being called a fanboy or fangirl has negative connotations. Online, it's not always clear whether a comment is a playful joke or a jeer. I think that was a joke, but I'm not sure. Sorry if over-reacting.

Spoiler: show
About fan favorites aka the squee factor: If all your posts or art focuses one specific chara or pairing, dial it back a little. Writing poems or carrying a picture of Shadow in a heart-shaped locket is unusual but doesn't hurt anybody. Building a shrine to Shadow out of used bubblegum is taking it way too far. Helga Pataki level devotion is not something great to aspire to.


Point is: when you're on a forum for any franchise, you'll probly encounter several peeps who aren't the same age, gender, race, orientation etc. as you but thought a series was cool anyway. Perhaps you'll bond over a common interest, maybe gain a new perspective or revise your opinions after hearing their feedback. Or maybe your opinions won't change, but you'll still talk back & forth respectfully, agree to disagree.

*Run-down of why this girl likes Sonic.*

Spoiler: show
I like Sonic for lots of reasons. The brightly colored cutesy anthro design appeals to me. Sonic & his friends just look perky, energetic, fun. The soundtracks are generally upbeat & catchy mixes of j-pop + techno. I probly would not have discovered Crush 40, Masoto Nakamura or Dreams Come True Records where it not for Sonic.

My fave Sonic games are the ones that emphasize speed + level exploration, such as Sonic Advance series or S3+K. I think Sonic is a good way to introduce kids or casual gamers to platforming, cause levels are generally short but visually striking, the difficulty increases over time but rarely gets frustrating, the rings are a nice 'safety net' when you run into spikes or an unexpected badnik, & you learn to balance precision jump sections w/ fast dashing ricochet runs off bumpers, springs, loops + corkscrew turns.

I adore the nostalgic tropical vibe of various Green Hill Zones; the crumbly sky relics of Marble Zone; the trippy, pinball delights of Casino Night; the wintry skid-fest that is Ice Cap Zone; the deserts + the cities + the cyberpunk factories + even the fiery lava realms where I been burned too many times. I just love the way zones are structured. 2 acts, then Eggman stomping in w/ some impractical mech never gets old. XD

I also like when there's multiple player charas to choose from, specially if they provide different styles of gameplay or have unique moves. It was fun for me to puzzle out how to reach every lost Chao in Sonic Advance 3. (The one where you needed Amy + Knuckles together to yield a giant hammer & break down a wall was an "aha" moment, cause I don't normally think of those charas teaming up.)

Although not every gameplay gimmick works for me (Werehog levels why you so slooow? Why must I get all Night + Day medals?) I do like that most Sonic games try new features.

Wisps. Wisps are awesome power-ups w/ an "ugly-cute" appeal comparable to Insectosaurus or Gru's Minions. Whether they remain a game staple or not, I'm glad Colors introduced them.

I don't mind collect-a-thon missions if they are integrated into the story or bring about some fun reward/upgrade. (Bringing stuffed animals to Chao + watching them evolve is fun. Getting an ultimate skill card after beating several opponents in Battle is fun. Collecting emeralds in various special stages & going super for the last battle is the most fun ever!! Trading one glittery item to Sticks for another is less thrilling.)

I even like the dialogue in most Sonic games. Whether it's the unintentional hilarity of Eggman shouting "GET A LOAD OF THIS!!" repeatedly or the deliberate snark of Tails (YMMV on how much snark is enjoyable) I laugh alot when I play Sonic.


I like that it's all-ages or kid friendly or whatever you think best describes Sonic's World. I know I'm not the target audience anymore, but I don't mind. I grew up w/ Sonic, now another generation is growing up & there's something we can share. My nephews are getting bigger, they've started playing & talking about Sonic, watching Boom on Cartoon Network, AOSTH + Underground on Netflix. (I keep hoping Sonic X will be added to Netflix, I'd love to watch w/ them. Kirby: Back At Ya would be a nice addition too.)

I've gained "Cool Aunt" points by giving game tips while babysitting & by giving Evan a copy of Sonic/Megaman FCBD. (He also liked the All-New Avengers FCBD special. Bought him an Ultimate Spider-Man comic too so May was an excellent month for family bonding.)

If you want a kid's take on Sonic, Knuckles is Evan's fave for being "tough guy", "punchy", "funny" & "red". Red is his fave color (all the best heroes wear red & cherry slush is red. For a six-year old, Evan makes a convincing argument.)

*TL;DR*
I like Sonic. I enjoy talking about Sonic. I'm kinda shy/dorky, but I open up more when talking bout fandoms I like. So Sonic is one way for me to feel connected to online friends or communities. Gaming can also be a family activity, so that's another plus. Watching anime/toons based on games is nice too.

There's lots of Sonic fans out there. I'd be happy to hear why other guys & girls like Sonic. The game play, the stories, the charas, the cartoons, the comics, the soundtracks, the fanart, the vlogs, the boards: whatever strikes a chord w/ y'all, I want to hear it.
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Re: Chicks Dig Blue Hedgehogs

Postby Mikail » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:38 pm

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that a majority of the female fans encompass the creative part of the fandom. Like, if you watch a video or read an article reviewing or analyzing any part of the Sonic franchise, most likely it's being done by guys. Meanwhile the ladies are busy writing fanfics, drawing comics and even making audio dramas and animations.
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