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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby QuantamEdge » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:48 am

Can't help but think it's legit, given how Sonic was made to be a Mario rival. Not to mention how Mighty was so alike to Sonic in design. If it is the truth though, I'm more pleased we got Mighty and Ray instead. At least the idea was tested later down the line (i.e. Undegrground).
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Azul » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:16 am

Tsurugi wrote:And why Mighty looked similar to Sonic's sprites in Knuckles' Chaotix.

QuantamEdge wrote:Not to mention how Mighty was so alike to Sonic in design.

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Mighty was one of the rejected protagonist designs. He's been around just as long if not longer than Sonic. Another reason why his sprites look so similar to Sonic's Sonic 1-2 sprites is because he was originally going to be in KC. Since Mighty is basically armodilo Sonic with a pointy nose aesthetically, the logical and time efficient thing to do would be to perform sprite surgery instead of making new ones altogether.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby QuantamEdge » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:23 am

Azul wrote:
Tsurugi wrote:And why Mighty looked similar to Sonic's sprites in Knuckles' Chaotix.

QuantamEdge wrote:Not to mention how Mighty was so alike to Sonic in design.

*adjusts glasses* *points left index finger up* *spits when talking*u
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Mighty was one of the rejected protagonist designs. He's been around just as long if not longer than Sonic. Another reason why his sprites look so similar to Sonic's Sonic 1-2 sprites is because he was originally going to be in KC. Since Mighty is basically armodilo Sonic with a pointy nose aesthetically, the logical and time efficient thing to do would be to perform sprite surgery instead of making new ones altogether.

I know that. I should've added that the red Sonic idea may have changed over time when the designers thought it better to have more creative characters. Once they saw the Mighty design concept lying around, they went with that instead of a simple recolour.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Mr.Unsmiley » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:30 pm

Azul wrote:
Tsurugi wrote:And why Mighty looked similar to Sonic's sprites in Knuckles' Chaotix.

QuantamEdge wrote:Not to mention how Mighty was so alike to Sonic in design.

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Mighty was one of the rejected protagonist designs. He's been around just as long if not longer than Sonic.


that's only sorta true
if you read between the lines of the wikia page, you'll notice they say there was a concept for an armadillo character, but it doesn't specify that it was Mighty. because the name and Sonic-like design came later. as that link shows, the original armadillo character looks totally different from the style the franchise is now known for. this link is even sourced on the wikia page :p
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Azul » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:59 pm

Mr.Unsmiley wrote:that's only sorta true
if you read between the lines of the wikia page, you'll notice they say there was a concept for an armadillo character, but it doesn't specify that it was Mighty. because the name and Sonic-like design came later. as that link shows, the original armadillo character looks totally different from the style the franchise is now known for. this link is even sourced on the wikia page :p


Tsk. I only caught the part where it says they reused the armodillo character for SegaSonic. This lead me to believe that Mighty's design's been around for ages.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Daisetsu » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:44 pm

Welp, turns out it's not a prototype but instead a cancelled game that failed a location test (just read the Sonic Retro thread for a better understanding).
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby 009* » Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:43 am

Wonder if the red and yellow Sonics will show up in the comic?
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Tsurugi » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:10 am

Yellow Sonic's already exists in the games and comics, he's Super Sonic. Or at the very least this might've sparked the idea for him, as well as the other obvious influence.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Mr.Unsmiley » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:40 am

we sorta already have red and yellow (and cyan?) copies of Sonic in the form of Professor Schlemmer's Bits
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Azul » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:38 pm

009* wrote:Wonder if the red and yellow Sonics will show up in the comic?


Sonic's not allowed to have relatives. They'd have to find a way to shoe horn them into the story without making them directly related to Sonic. The multiverse is still in it's prenatal stages so there's an option.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby Meliden » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:35 pm

Oh, here's something interesting before the forum shuts; Kevin Eva was the guy who made the little reference signs in Generations (such as the missing posters, or the billboards). According to him, amongst reference signs that didn't make it into the game were references to Archie Sonic, Sonic the Comic and the four Sonic cartoon series.
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby 009* » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:49 pm

Gee, I wonder why they were cut?

Stupid legalese...
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby OncleSam » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:02 pm

Hey guys um, I didin't want to make a topic for this but I just wanted to say to everyone goodbye and thanks for all the good times on this forum. I'll stay informed of the well being of the comic, but I don't think I'll be tracking you guys down in another forum. I don't know, I guess I have too much going on in my life to stay in this sort of thing.

I wish everyone the best of luck for your future endeavors, and thanks a million to all the authors that brought these awesome books in my life.

See ya around guys !

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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby DabigRG » Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:52 pm

Can someone please gather Pre-SGW ages information on as many characters as possible? Thank you!

Heres a category list I made to help
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Freedom Fighters
Chaotix
Acorn Lineage
Council of Acorn
Rebel Underground/Secret Service
Acorn Citizens
Brotherhood of Guardians
Echidnaopolis
Albion(Pre-Darkest Storm/Evil Reborn)
Fireants
Knuckles Clan
Ancient/Neo Walkers
Team Dark
GUN members
Substitute Legion
Dragon Kingdom
Crazy Kritters
Downunda
Forthy Fathom(just kidding) :(hearty laughter):
Sandblast
Dragon Tribe
Artic
Original Freedom Fighters
Nate Morgan
Nerbs
Robotnik Empire
Kintobor Lineage
DEL/Eggman Army
Dark Legion
Nocturus Clan
Dingos
Order of Ixis
Mobius Underworld
Destructix
Iron Dominion
Brides of Four Houses
Naugus Vanguard
Battlebird Armada
Other Knuckles Villains
Zone Cops
Futures
Sol Zone
Moebius
Fractured Mirror/Dark Mobius
Deceased Characters(at time of death)
United Federation Leaders
Felidae Warriors
Wolf Pack
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Re: The Thread of general Sonic-related questions

Postby theusjshjdhdne » Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:19 am

DabigRG wrote:Can someone please gather Pre-SGW ages information on as many characters as possible? Thank you!

Heres a category list I made to help
Spoiler: show
Freedom Fighters
Chaotix
Acorn Lineage
Council of Acorn
Rebel Underground/Secret Service
Acorn Citizens
Brotherhood of Guardians
Echidnaopolis
Albion(Pre-Darkest Storm/Evil Reborn)
Fireants
Knuckles Clan
Ancient/Neo Walkers
Team Dark
GUN members
Substitute Legion
Dragon Kingdom
Crazy Kritters
Downunda
Forthy Fathom(just kidding) :(hearty laughter):
Sandblast
Dragon Tribe
Artic
Original Freedom Fighters
Nate Morgan
Nerbs
Robotnik Empire
Kintobor Lineage
DEL/Eggman Army
Dark Legion
Nocturus Clan
Dingos
Order of Ixis
Mobius Underworld
Destructix
Iron Dominion
Brides of Four Houses
Naugus Vanguard
Battlebird Armada
Other Knuckles Villains
Zone Cops
Futures
Sol Zone
Moebius
Fractured Mirror/Dark Mobius
Deceased Characters(at time of death)
United Federation Leaders
Felidae Warriors
Wolf Pack


Knothole Freedom Fighters
Sonic the Hedgehog - physically 16, mentally 17
Miles "Tails" Prower - 11
Amy Rose - physically 17, mentally 11
Big the Cat - 18
Cream the Rabbit - 6
Antoine D'Coolette - 20
Bunnie D'Coolette - 18
Rotor Walrus - 18

Chaotix
Vector the Crocodile - 20
Espio the Chameleon - 16
Charmy Bee - physically a teenager, mentally a child
Saffron Bee - Unknown
Mighty the Armadillo - Unknown
Ray the Flying Squirrel - 10
Julie-Su - 16

Acorn Lineage
Maximillian Acorn - 58
Alicia Acorn - Unknown
Sally Acorn - 17
Elias Acorn - 21
Megan Acorn - Unknown
Alexis Acorn - Unknown

Council of Acorn
Charles Hedgehog - 70
Rosemary Prower - 38

Rebel Underground/Secret Service
Geoffrey St. John - 18-20
Hershey St. John - Unknown
George Sommersby - Unknown
Fleming - Unknown
Smiley - Unknown

Brotherhood of Guardians
Spectre - Unknown
Sojourner - Unknown
Thunderhawk - Unknown
Sabre - Unknown
Knuckles the Echidna - 17

Albion
Lara-Le - Unknown
Remington - Unknown
Wynmacher - Unknown
Komi-Ko - Unknown
Knecapeon "Kneecaps" Mace - 1
Yanar - Unknown
Zax - Unknown
Raynor - Unknown

Fire Ants
Christopholes - Unknown
Bona Fortuna - Unknown
Deo Volente - 200+
Semper Fidelis - Unknown
Archimedes - Unknown

Knuckles Clan
Pachacamac - Unknown
Tikal - 14

Ancient/Neo Walkers
Original 3 Mobosaurs - Unknown
Merlin Prower - Unknown
Athair - Unknown
Aurora - Unknown

Team Dark
Abraham Tower - 50+
Shadow the Hedgehog - physically 18, mentally 50
Rouge the Bat - 18

G.U.N. Members
G.U.N. Colonel - Unknown

Substitute Legion
Larry Lynx - Unknown
Isabella Mongoose - Unknown
Dylan - Unknown
Hamlin - Unknown
Penelope Platypus - Unknown

Dragon Kingdom
Dulcy the Dragon - 14
Zan - Unknown

Crazy Kritters
Rob O'Hedge - Unknown
Mari-An - Unknown
Jon O'Hedge - Unknown
Bow Sparrow - Unknown
Friar Buck - Unknown
Alan Quail - Unknown
Munch the Rat - Unknown
Thorn the Lop - Unknown

Downunda Freedom Fighters
Walt Wallaby - Unknown
Barby Koala - Unknown
Wombat Stu - Unknown
Guru Emu - Unknown
Duck "Bill" Platypus - Unknown

Sand-Blasters
Jack Rabbit - Unknown
Avery the Bear - Unknown
Shift E. Wolf - Unknown
Jolt the Roadrunner - Unknown
Tex the Lizard - Unknown
Murphy - Unknown

Arctic Freedom Fighters
Guntiver - Unknown
Augustus - Unknown
Erma Ermine - Unknown
Flip Penguin - Unknown
Sealia Seal - Unknown

Original Freedom Fighters
Tig Stripe - Unknown
Bull Bones - Unknown
Sir Peckers - Unknown
Trey Scales - Unknown
Spot Long - Unknown

Nate Morgan - Unknown

Nerbs
Nerb King - Unknown
Nerb Freedom Fighters - Unknown

Eggman Empire
Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik - 48
Snively Robotnik - 31

Kintobor Lineage
Dr. Ivan Kintobor - Unknown
Ivo Robughnik - Unknown
Gerald Robotnik - Unknown
Jeniffer Vasquez - Unknown
Geraldo Robotnik - Unknown
Maria Robotnik - Unknown
Bertha Kintobor - Unknown
Ivo Kintobor - Unknown
Colin Kintobor - 52
Miriam Day - Unknown
Angela Hopkins - Unknown
Hope Kintobor - 14

DEL/Eggman Army
Lien-Da - 33
Dimitri - 379
Akhlut - Unknown
Beauregard Rabbot - Unknown
Matilda the Armadillo - Unknown
Diesel - Unknown
Drago Wolf - Unknown
Egg Paladins - Unknown
The Foreman - Unknown
Hugo Brass - Unknown
Mordred Hood - Unknown
Razorklaw - Unknown

Dark Legion
Menniker - Unknown
Moritori Rex - Unknown
Luger - Unknown
Kragok - 32

Nocturnus Clan
Pir'Oth Ix - Unknown
Shade the Echidna - Unknown

Dingos
Gerbil - Unknown
Harry - Unknown
Hogan - Unknown
Jasper - Unknown
Rat - Unknown
Vermin - Unknown

Order of Ixis
Mammoth Mogul - 10,000+
Four Elite - Unknown
Ixis Naugus - Unknown

Destructix
Fiona Fox - 16
Lightning Lynx - Unknown
Sergeant Simian - Unknown
Flying Frog - Unknown
Predator Hawk - Unknown

Iron Dominion
Jun Kun - Unknown
Regina Ferrum - Late 20s-Early 30s

Brides of Four Houses
Bride of the Conquering Storm - Unknown
Bride of Constant Vigil - Unknown
Bride of the Endless Reach - Unknown
Bride of Rich Nights - Unknown

Battle Bird Armada
Grand Battle Kukku XV - Unknown
Speedy - Unknown
Dr. Fukurokov - Unknown

Other Knuckles Villains
Helmut Von Stryker - Unknown
Hunter - Unknown
Dr. Finitevus - Unknown

Zone Cops
Warden Zobotnik - Unknown
Major Znively - Unknown
Zouge the Bat - Unknown
Zonic - 17
Zespio - Unknown
Zhadow - Unknown
Zantoine - Unknown
Zally Zacorn - Unknown
Znuckles - Unknown

Futures
King Sonic the Hedgehog - physically 46, mentally 47
Queen Sally Acorn - 47
Sonia Acorn - 4
Manik Acorn - 4
Shadow the Hedgehog - physically 18, mentally 80
Hope Kintobor - Unknown
Knuckles the Echidna - 47
Julie-Su - 46
Lara-Su - 21
Spectre - Unknown
Sojourner - Unknown
Locke - Unknown
Knecapeon "Kneecaps" Mace - 31
Wynmacher - Unknown
Dimitri - 409
Lien-Da - 63
Misty-Re - Unknown
Archimedes - Unknown
Jaker - Unknown
Perriwinkle - Unknown
Shockra - Unknown
Dr. Finitevus - Unknown
Rutan - Unknown
Miles "Tails" Prower - 41
Mina Prower - 40
Melody Prower - 14
Skye Prower - 8
Rotor Walrus - 48
Antoine D'Coolette - Unknown
Bunnie D'Coolette - Unknown
Belle D'Coolette - Unknown
Jacques D'Coolette - Unknown
Vector the Crocodile - Unknown
Argyle the Crocodile - Unknown
Espio the Chameleon - Unknown
Charmy Bee - Unknown
Saffron Bee - Unknown
Mighty the Armadillo - Unknown
Ray the Flying Squirrel - Unknown
Salma - Unknown
Juanita - Unknown
Sasha Cat - Unknown


Sol Zone
Blaze the Cat - 14
Marine the Raccoon - 7
Tabby - Unknown
Muzy - Unknown
Daikun - Unknown
Setter - Unknown
Kylok - Unknown
Colonel - Unknown
Gardon - Unknown

Moebius
Scourge the Hedgehog - 17
Miles Prower - 11
Alicia Acorn - 17
Rosy the Rascal - physically 17, mentally 11
Patch D'Coolette - 20
Buns Rabbot - 18
Boomer Walrus - 18
Jeffrey St. Croix - 18-20
Anti-Jules - Unknown
Anti-Penelope - Unknown
Anti-Rob O'Hedge - Unknown
Anti-Rob O'Hedge's brother - Unknown
Maxx Acorn - 58
O'Nux - 17
Dr. Ivo Kintobor - 48

Dark Mobius
Jani-Ca - 21
Cutlass Depardieu - Unknown
Scarlette Rabbot - Unknown
Dagger Walrus - Unknown
Payback Fox - Unknown
Demo Duck - Unknown
Blockbuster Polar Bear - Unknown

Deceased Characters
I'm not entirely sure what to put here. There are simply too many deceased characters in this comic.

United Federation Leaders
Mayor Bullyani - Unknown
Princess Elise - 17

Felidae Warriors
Queen Hathor - Unknown

Wolf Pack
Lobo - Unknown
Lupe - Unknown
Reynard - Unknown
Diablo - Unknown
Canus - Unknown
Leeta - Unknown
Lyco - Unknown
Aerial - Unknown
Athena - Unknown
Marcos - Unknown
Maria - Unknown
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